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		<title>Comment on Compare / Contrast by Chaos</title>
		<link>http://nightgigjo.wordpress.com/2009/10/29/compare-contrast/#comment-1920</link>
		<dc:creator>Chaos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 05:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;no one would be asked to be kicked in the nuts.&quot;

Sure they would, my sub asks for that all the time. Maybe the guy was a masochist and he asked for it. Why didn&#039;t he report it until later that night when he realized &quot;something was missing&quot;? Maybe it was just a case of rough sex, and the alleged victim only wanted to cry assault later on when he realized something had gone wrong and he regretted it. That&#039;s how a woman would be treated if she reported something like that, but you won&#039;t see that said about a man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;no one would be asked to be kicked in the nuts.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sure they would, my sub asks for that all the time. Maybe the guy was a masochist and he asked for it. Why didn&#8217;t he report it until later that night when he realized &#8220;something was missing&#8221;? Maybe it was just a case of rough sex, and the alleged victim only wanted to cry assault later on when he realized something had gone wrong and he regretted it. That&#8217;s how a woman would be treated if she reported something like that, but you won&#8217;t see that said about a man.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Compare / Contrast by tanglethis</title>
		<link>http://nightgigjo.wordpress.com/2009/10/29/compare-contrast/#comment-1919</link>
		<dc:creator>tanglethis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 14:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That should be &quot;children can&#039;t ask for sex, let alone rape.&quot;  I meant legally.  I&#039;m a bit flustered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That should be &#8220;children can&#8217;t ask for sex, let alone rape.&#8221;  I meant legally.  I&#8217;m a bit flustered.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Compare / Contrast by tanglethis</title>
		<link>http://nightgigjo.wordpress.com/2009/10/29/compare-contrast/#comment-1918</link>
		<dc:creator>tanglethis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 14:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I had really hung up on the “victim”/”alleged victim” dichotomy&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;m still hung up on that.  I&#039;m still trying to figure out why that would be.  I mean, in the man&#039;s case there is physical evidence of assault that would not be there if he had not been assaulted.  There isn&#039;t mention of that in the second article, but that article leaves out a lot of information and besides, there have been numerous cases of injury from rape in which the rape was still put in quotation marks.  So that&#039;s not it.
Then I thought, well, no one would be asked to be kicked in the nuts.  No one asks to be raped either - that&#039;s the definition of rape - but in many rape cases, the &quot;alleged&quot;ness is a question of whether the act (and the accompanying injuries, recently deemed &quot;rough play&quot; in some asshole court or another) were actually asked for in some nonspecific way by the victim.  That&#039;s fucked up... but the victim in the quoted story is a child, so that&#039;s even more fucked up.  Children can&#039;t ask for rape.  So why is it &quot;alleged&quot; here?

Then I realized it was just no damn good to pinpoint a single reason for any of this, since there is not one.  Just an insidious culture that encourages simultaneous contradictory beliefs - including the plight of the innocent man, attacked by some crazy bitch (the article implies), who is nonetheless not a victim of sexual assault.  (Just a victim of crazy bitchitude, perhaps?  All men are, it must be okay!)

/rant</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I had really hung up on the “victim”/”alleged victim” dichotomy</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;m still hung up on that.  I&#8217;m still trying to figure out why that would be.  I mean, in the man&#8217;s case there is physical evidence of assault that would not be there if he had not been assaulted.  There isn&#8217;t mention of that in the second article, but that article leaves out a lot of information and besides, there have been numerous cases of injury from rape in which the rape was still put in quotation marks.  So that&#8217;s not it.<br />
Then I thought, well, no one would be asked to be kicked in the nuts.  No one asks to be raped either &#8211; that&#8217;s the definition of rape &#8211; but in many rape cases, the &#8220;alleged&#8221;ness is a question of whether the act (and the accompanying injuries, recently deemed &#8220;rough play&#8221; in some asshole court or another) were actually asked for in some nonspecific way by the victim.  That&#8217;s fucked up&#8230; but the victim in the quoted story is a child, so that&#8217;s even more fucked up.  Children can&#8217;t ask for rape.  So why is it &#8220;alleged&#8221; here?</p>
<p>Then I realized it was just no damn good to pinpoint a single reason for any of this, since there is not one.  Just an insidious culture that encourages simultaneous contradictory beliefs &#8211; including the plight of the innocent man, attacked by some crazy bitch (the article implies), who is nonetheless not a victim of sexual assault.  (Just a victim of crazy bitchitude, perhaps?  All men are, it must be okay!)</p>
<p>/rant</p>
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		<title>Comment on Compare / Contrast by Jo</title>
		<link>http://nightgigjo.wordpress.com/2009/10/29/compare-contrast/#comment-1917</link>
		<dc:creator>Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BING! we have a winner!

And honestly, I tried to find an example that was both approximately the length of the first article AND an adult female victim, but the length won out.

&lt;blockquote&gt;The female attacker is openly criticized. The male attackers are described neutrally.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You know, I hadn&#039;t noticed that.  I had really hung up on the &quot;victim&quot;/&quot;alleged victim&quot; dichotomy, and missed that particular detail.

And it&#039;s true -- what that man experienced *was* sexual assault, and, while he&#039;s not getting the treatment women/girls get when they report sexual assault (are you sure you weren&#039;t asking for it, etc.), he also didn&#039;t get the recognition that it WAS sexual assault.  All because, of course, men are the aggressors, and therefore can&#039;t be sexually assaulted (unless they&#039;re in prison and/or attacked by another man).  Women, as you know, can&#039;t sexually assault people either.

I wonder when that particular myth is going to finally give up and die.  It does such a disservice to anyone and everyone who is raped / sexually assaulted / molested / etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BING! we have a winner!</p>
<p>And honestly, I tried to find an example that was both approximately the length of the first article AND an adult female victim, but the length won out.</p>
<blockquote><p>The female attacker is openly criticized. The male attackers are described neutrally.</p></blockquote>
<p>You know, I hadn&#8217;t noticed that.  I had really hung up on the &#8220;victim&#8221;/&#8221;alleged victim&#8221; dichotomy, and missed that particular detail.</p>
<p>And it&#8217;s true &#8212; what that man experienced *was* sexual assault, and, while he&#8217;s not getting the treatment women/girls get when they report sexual assault (are you sure you weren&#8217;t asking for it, etc.), he also didn&#8217;t get the recognition that it WAS sexual assault.  All because, of course, men are the aggressors, and therefore can&#8217;t be sexually assaulted (unless they&#8217;re in prison and/or attacked by another man).  Women, as you know, can&#8217;t sexually assault people either.</p>
<p>I wonder when that particular myth is going to finally give up and die.  It does such a disservice to anyone and everyone who is raped / sexually assaulted / molested / etc.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Compare / Contrast by tanglethis</title>
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		<dc:creator>tanglethis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 19:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THE difference?
The male victim gets a voice.  The female victim does not (although, as a child, this complicates things).
The female attacker is openly criticized.  The male attackers are described neutrally.
This may be because the testicle-kicking is presented as definite, while the rape is presented as &quot;alleged.&quot;  (At least they call it rape, and not sex, as so many news outlet do.)
And for a final weird twist: the female victim was allegedly &quot;sexually assaulted.&quot;  The male victim is not said to be &quot;sexually assaulted,&quot; even though he was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THE difference?<br />
The male victim gets a voice.  The female victim does not (although, as a child, this complicates things).<br />
The female attacker is openly criticized.  The male attackers are described neutrally.<br />
This may be because the testicle-kicking is presented as definite, while the rape is presented as &#8220;alleged.&#8221;  (At least they call it rape, and not sex, as so many news outlet do.)<br />
And for a final weird twist: the female victim was allegedly &#8220;sexually assaulted.&#8221;  The male victim is not said to be &#8220;sexually assaulted,&#8221; even though he was.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What the gov&#8217;t should look like by Jo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YES.

My personal euphemism-to-English translation of &lt;em&gt;civilization&lt;/em&gt; is &quot;that which gets me (rich white dudes) more of what I want, and makes me look good in my own estimation.&quot;  &lt;em&gt;Democracy&lt;/em&gt; loosely translates as &quot;bullying other countries into agreeing with me, the rich white dude nation&quot;.

BOTH &lt;em&gt;100%&lt;/em&gt; cringeworthy, at least in common usage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YES.</p>
<p>My personal euphemism-to-English translation of <em>civilization</em> is &#8220;that which gets me (rich white dudes) more of what I want, and makes me look good in my own estimation.&#8221;  <em>Democracy</em> loosely translates as &#8220;bullying other countries into agreeing with me, the rich white dude nation&#8221;.</p>
<p>BOTH <em>100%</em> cringeworthy, at least in common usage.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What the gov&#8217;t should look like by berryblade</title>
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		<dc:creator>berryblade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only thing that makes me madder than the fact that &quot;women and other minorities&quot; (how half the global population ever comes under category of minority is just beyond me) is the fact that so many people think the system of government that we have (The Australian political system is more or less a copy and paste from the British and American, as I&#039;m sure you&#039;re well aware) is &quot;civilised&quot;

When I hear the word &quot;civilisation&quot; I just can&#039;t help but think &quot;ridiculous hierarchal structure which is biased and unfair.&quot;

Or maybe that&#039;s just me.
Thanks for those links, they make an interesting read when I&#039;m trying to avoid doing my weekly reading for class :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only thing that makes me madder than the fact that &#8220;women and other minorities&#8221; (how half the global population ever comes under category of minority is just beyond me) is the fact that so many people think the system of government that we have (The Australian political system is more or less a copy and paste from the British and American, as I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;re well aware) is &#8220;civilised&#8221;</p>
<p>When I hear the word &#8220;civilisation&#8221; I just can&#8217;t help but think &#8220;ridiculous hierarchal structure which is biased and unfair.&#8221;</p>
<p>Or maybe that&#8217;s just me.<br />
Thanks for those links, they make an interesting read when I&#8217;m trying to avoid doing my weekly reading for class <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on What the gov&#8217;t should look like by Quick Hit: Political Progress &#171; The Geek Side</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quick Hit: Political Progress &#171; The Geek Side</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on What the gov&#8217;t should look like by Jo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Feel free to run your own numbers.  I&#039;m sure this isn&#039;t original by any stretch. :)

Another point I&#039;m not sure I&#039;ve made elsewhere, but that has come to my attention more than once, is that the U.S. has this big-headed idea that it&#039;s *ahead* of so much of the rest of the world (if not all of it, natch), but that as far as equal gender representation in government is concerned, the U.S. is far more male-dominated than countries U.S. attitudes and/or foreign policy treat as lesser, whether they&#039;re looked on with disdain or pity.  I mean, Rwanda&#039;s parliament is &lt;del datetime=&quot;2009-08-10T06:33:10+00:00&quot;&gt;almost&lt;/del&gt; more than 50% women -- the only one in the world to be so close -- and the only place one hears/heard about Rwanda was in reference to the violence of recent years (as though the US wasn&#039;t &lt;em&gt;rife&lt;/em&gt; with violence!)

Of course, General Opinion (that is, the one that is reflected in the makeup of our various governing bodies) might just hold that it&#039;s far more &quot;advanced&quot; or &quot;civilized&quot; or even (gag) &quot;democratic&quot; to have more white-male-otherwise-privileged leaders.  This would be, sadly, unsurprising to me.

Here are the data I&#039;ve seen on women&#039;s representation in government:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ipu.org/wmn-e/classif.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Women in Parliaments&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.guide2womenleaders.com/index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Guide to Women Leaders&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;em&gt;
ETA: I completely botched those numbers on Rwanda.  I was remembering a 50/50 split:  what I last saw (late 2008) was that 45 out of 80 members of the Rwandan parliament are women.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Feel free to run your own numbers.  I&#8217;m sure this isn&#8217;t original by any stretch. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Another point I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;ve made elsewhere, but that has come to my attention more than once, is that the U.S. has this big-headed idea that it&#8217;s *ahead* of so much of the rest of the world (if not all of it, natch), but that as far as equal gender representation in government is concerned, the U.S. is far more male-dominated than countries U.S. attitudes and/or foreign policy treat as lesser, whether they&#8217;re looked on with disdain or pity.  I mean, Rwanda&#8217;s parliament is <del datetime="2009-08-10T06:33:10+00:00">almost</del> more than 50% women &#8212; the only one in the world to be so close &#8212; and the only place one hears/heard about Rwanda was in reference to the violence of recent years (as though the US wasn&#8217;t <em>rife</em> with violence!)</p>
<p>Of course, General Opinion (that is, the one that is reflected in the makeup of our various governing bodies) might just hold that it&#8217;s far more &#8220;advanced&#8221; or &#8220;civilized&#8221; or even (gag) &#8220;democratic&#8221; to have more white-male-otherwise-privileged leaders.  This would be, sadly, unsurprising to me.</p>
<p>Here are the data I&#8217;ve seen on women&#8217;s representation in government:<br />
<a href="http://www.ipu.org/wmn-e/classif.htm" rel="nofollow">Women in Parliaments</a><br />
<a href="http://www.guide2womenleaders.com/index.html" rel="nofollow">Guide to Women Leaders</a><br />
<em><br />
ETA: I completely botched those numbers on Rwanda.  I was remembering a 50/50 split:  what I last saw (late 2008) was that 45 out of 80 members of the Rwandan parliament are women.</em></p>
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		<title>Comment on What the gov&#8217;t should look like by berryblade</title>
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		<dc:creator>berryblade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a student of politics/journalism I can&#039;t say that something like this is in desperate need WORLDWIDE until we can evolve to a system past democracy (is there one? Firestone seems to think socialism to communism is a good idea, and to an extent I agree with her.)

I&#039;m going to try and figure out the numbers for this if it were Australian, if that&#039;s okay.

I love this :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a student of politics/journalism I can&#8217;t say that something like this is in desperate need WORLDWIDE until we can evolve to a system past democracy (is there one? Firestone seems to think socialism to communism is a good idea, and to an extent I agree with her.)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to try and figure out the numbers for this if it were Australian, if that&#8217;s okay.</p>
<p>I love this <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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